Ex Wants Stroller Money Back If Child Is Not His (Full Episode) | Paternity Court

Ex Wants Stroller Money Back If Child Is Not His (Full Episode) | Paternity Court

August 16, 2019 100 By Bertrand Dibbert


You may be seated. Hello, Your Honor. Hello. This is the case of
Tinch v. Grubb
and Boatwright.
Thank you, Jerome.
Good day, everyone. AUDIENCE: Good day. Mr. Tinch, you are suing
the defendant for $59.98, the cost of a baby stroller. Yes, Your Honor. You claim you purchased it for
a child you believe may not
be your biological daughter. Yes, Your Honor. You’re also seeking the
results of a paternity test. You claim the defendant
was cheating with her ex at the time her daughter
was conceived. Yes, Your Honor. Ms. Grubb, you say
the only reason Mr. Tinch
is denying your daughter is because he’s afraid
to grow up. Yes, Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE: You deny
cheating with your ex and are counter-suing
for $2,435, an amount you say is half
the cost of your daughter’s
child care expenses thus far. Yes, Your Honor. The other potential father
has been tested for paternity, and is waiting outside
of the courtroom. (AUDIENCE GASPS) We’ll get to his testimony
in just a few moments. So, Ms. Grubb, what’s your reaction to
this lawsuit Mr. Tinch
is bringing? I think he has enough nerve
to sue me for $60
for a stroller, when in the past
year and a half,
I’ve spent way more than that, over $5,000,
let alone on clothes, shoes, food, everything. So, I think it’s ridiculous. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) So… Mr. Tinch, tell me,
you’re suing for $59.98
for the stroller. Yes, ma’am. Tell the court why. I’m suing because
I believe that the baby
isn’t mine, uh… I mean, I’m doing something
that most men twice my age
wouldn’t do at 18 years old, and that’s take care of her
and her first child. I mean, I believe the baby
isn’t mine because she
has none of my features. None. Blonde hair, blue eyes. JUDGE LAKE: So… You did give
Ms. Grubb a stroller. I bought the stroller while
she was pregnant
with the baby. You did. Yeah. And you bought that willingly? Yeah. It was a gift? Yes, Your Honor. Okay, you have to understand,
Mr. Tinch, gifts are
not revocable. Once you give a gift,
you can’t take it back. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) Even when you’re angry,
all right? Yes, Your Honor. So, for that reason,
your claim is dismissed. Do you understand? Yes, Your Honor. Moving on,
judgment for the defendant. All right. So, back to this relationship. You find out you’re pregnant,
you’re having the baby,
he buys the stroller, at what point do you
start having doubt? TINCH: Um, we had went to the
doctor’s and found out that she was about
a week and a half pregnant. And about a week and a half
prior to that, we were arguing,
and she had took
her son, Christian, to see his father,
Mr. Boatwright. When she had got back,
we was talking and stuff, and I asked her about
some stuff, and she
admitted to me that she had kissed
Mr. Boatwright. (AUDIENCE GASPS) So, Mr. Tinch,
moving forward
a little bit, you say you were at
a doctor’s appointment. And something about
the doctor’s appointment
made you doubtful? Yes, because, they said that
she was about a week
and a half pregnant, and like I said… Your Honor, you cannot
find out that you’re pregnant at just a week and a half. Yes you can. Yes you can. You’ve got to be
four weeks. I don’t know what was
going through his mind, I don’t know if it was
the hoes that he was
cheating on me with, but I heard that I was
four weeks pregnant, not no week and a half. And if he’s doubting
the baby so much, then why did he sign
the birth certificate? Why was he there
the whole pregnancy? Like, I took care of my kids
by myself for basically
five years. My son, five years.
And my daughter,
a year and a half. So, Ms. Grubb,
you have two children. Yes, Your Honor. And how old are you? Eighteen. (AUDIENCE GASPING) Eighteen years old. Yes, Your Honor. With two children. Yes, Your Honor. So, you were a teenage
mother, you still are
a teenage mother. Mmm-hmm.
Yes, Your Honor. I need to understand,
Mr. Tinch, your doubt. You say when you went
to that doctor’s appointment, you were told or
informed that she was about
a week and a half pregnant? Yes, ma’am. JUDGE LAKE: All right. So, the doctor’s visit
would have been on
the 7th of May. The time you indicated
you were having some
relationship problems, and she went to visit her ex
was around when? TINCH: Uh, it was
about a week prior to
the doctor’s appointment. JUDGE LAKE: So,
the relationship
problems happened around the week of April 22nd
to the 28th or so. TINCH: Yes, Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE: That’s indicated
in red, as you can see. And at this point,
that’s when you say, you were told
she was about a week
and a half pregnant. TINCH: Yes, and it made me… And, so, in your mind,
you calculated back, and you said that was
the exact week she went
to see her ex, and then came back
and admitted… (AUDIENCE GASPS) …that she had kissed him. Yes. And you think
much more happened. Yes. So, Mr. Tinch, why did you
sign the birth certificate? Here is your name. TINCH: Your Honor,
I signed the birth certificate because I’ve been there
through everything. I’ve been there for
her son since he was
a year and a half. I was there through
the whole pregnancy… GRUBB: If you had doubts… I moved from
Columbus to Circleville …why did you stay? just to be with her
while she was pregnant. I left my family, I wasn’t
even supposed to leave. I moved out of my dad’s house
and went to Circleville with
her so I could be with her. That’s why I signed
the birth certificate because I wasn’t gonna
just leave her hanging
like that. I’m not. And this really hurts you? TINCH: Yeah, it really does. Because you feel like
you’ve sacrificed so much. I have sacrificed a lot. JUDGE LAKE:
Despite your doubt. Jerome, I think it’s time
we meet possible father
number two. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) Watch your step. How you doing, Your Honor? Hello, Mr. Boatwright, thank you for
joining us today. No problem, no problem. You know, we are
here, um, dealing with
a paternity issue, as it relates to
beautiful baby Nadaly. Yes, ma’am. And the court needs
to understand, do you remember the week
Mr. Tinch is speaking of? The week Ms. Grubb
brought your child
together to see you. Yes, ma’am. She then admitted to
Mr. Tinch she had kissed you. Yes, ma’am. Do you remember that week? That is correct. So, was it a passionate
type of kiss? Or a kiss just like
you’d kiss your mom? She was dealing
with hard times. Yes, ma’am,
I did passionate kiss her. Did it go any
further than that? No, Your Honor, it didn’t. Mr. Tinch, I can tell
you’re not buying this. I’m not. (CHUCKLES)
I’m really not because… For the simple fact that… Can I come just
right out of my shell? JUDGE LAKE: Come on out
of your shell,
don’t be scared. As my daddy would say,
“Ain’t nobody scared.” (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) I believe Mr. Tinch is just
using me as an excuse to not take care of
his responsibility. Ms. Grubb and I
is just friends. I was out of my son’s life
for the first year and a half
because I was scared. I was young, I admit it. I grew up into the man
I am today just to
take care of my son. You need to stop using me
for an excuse, step up and take care of
your responsibilities. It’s nobody else’s but yours. So, you feel, Mr. Boatwright,
like Mr. Tinch doesn’t have
any reason to be doubtful? No, ma’am. But let’s be frank,
if the tables were turned, and you were in a relationship
with Ms. Grubb, and she went to visit
Mr. Tinch, and then came
back home, and said, “Well, babe, I gotta
admit to you I kissed him.” I would be upset! You probably would feel
a little bit of doubt, too. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) No, ma’am, I would not. You wouldn’t feel any doubt? I would be a little upset, but that don’t mean
I would have doubt. But you wouldn’t have doubt? No, ma’am, I wouldn’t. You one heck of a man. Right? BOATWRIGHT: Yes, ma’am. That’s difficult to hear. I don’t know what to tell her. So, Ms. Grubb,
what has Mr. Tinch
done for Nadaly? Nothing. When she was first
born, his dad bought
formula for Nadaly. Yeah, he bought
me that stroller
when I was pregnant, but after I had Nadaly,
yeah, he sat up there
for two weeks in Circleville, he did not move in. He stayed there
because I was sick. After that,
he was too busy partying, hanging out with his friends,
he’d leave me at his house with Nadaly and Christian
while he goes and parties. (CLEARS THROAT)
And cheats, and
all this and that. Like, it’s ridiculous. Like, if you look at that
little girl right there you cannot see Mike in her. BOATWRIGHT: Just like him. You see Chris and me. BOATWRIGHT: Spitting image… Now, Christian looks
like Mike. …of Mr. Tinch. He looks identical to Mike. But Nadaly looks
nothing like Mike.
Nothing at all. And it hurts me
because every single day
for a year and a half, Nadaly has said,
“Mommy, where’s Daddy?
Mommy, Mommy, Mommy, “Daddy, Daddy, Daddy!”
And it hurts me because
I don’t know what to tell her. Like, it hurts me, a lot. You can bring her over to see
me, instead of keeping her… You don’t have a place. That don’t mean you can’t
bring her over to see me. I don’t know where you’re at.
You’re bouncing from
back and forth. Yes you do, I’ve lived in the
same spot for two and a half,
three years. That’s not what you
been saying, Chris. You lived there with me. Okay, and you said
your dad kicked you out. You lived there with me,
you don’t know where I live? Your dad said
he kicked you out. You know, this is the exact
reason that teenagers do not
need to be having kids. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) They need to be
getting their education, and doing something
productive because
you two haven’t even figured your own
lives out yet. Now, you’re 18.
How old is your oldest child? Four. Four! You’re 18 with
a four-year-old,
and a one-year-old. And all this responsibility,
and yet paternity
is still in doubt. I’m just gonna say when
this paternity comes back
that you are the father, you need to step up,
be a man, and take care
of your daughter. Buddy, I’ve been stepped up.
Like I said, I’ve been
taking care of your son since he was
a year and a half. He calls me Dad. Your Honor, no.
My grandma has been
taking care of my son. Yes, he comes over
every once in a while,
me and Chris was together, but because I was so young,
my grandma took it in
her hands, and raised my son. And I’m not going to lie,
she did. So, Mr. Boatwright,
you’re telling him
to take care of his child, but her grandmother is
taking care of your child? Yes, ma’am. I was scared. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) I was scared. I was young.
I admit it. And he’s young, too. At this point, you all
can’t use young as an
excuse anymore. TINCH: I never did use young
as an excuse… You done jumped in the river, you got to learn to swim. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) Did you finish school? Did you finish high school? No, ma’am. Did you finish high school? I’m still in school. Did you finish high school? I graduate in January,
Your Honor. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) You all better
finish high school, find a college to enroll in,
I don’t care if it’s at night,
part-time. Get started and get
to learning, educate
yourselves and do better. This is a lot of
responsibility for
young people like you. I’m 40-something years old,
it gets overwhelming for me
some days, Jerome! (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) It’s a lot! All right. You, Ms. Grubb,
are suing for $2,435. And that’s what you say
is half the cost of all of the child care
expenses you have spent
on Nadaly thus far. Do you have
receipts, proof, anything,
regarding what you spent? Yes, Your Honor. Jerome, would you please
hand me that evidence? And you say to date,
Mr. Tinch has not
given you a dime. No, Your Honor. Nothing? No, Your Honor. But the stroller. Yes, Your Honor. (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) JUDGE LAKE: So, clothing,
per month, $1,258, that’s
for 21 months? Diapers and wipes, $1,092. Formula. $15 per can.
Yes, that’s about right. Eight cans per month
times 21 months, $2,520. Which totals $4,870. I can’t rule on
this particular claim, until we find out
the results though. Now, Mr. Tinch. I need to understand
from you. These expenses
that she’s outlined, have you paid
for any of this? I’ve paid for some formula. It came out of
your dad’s pocket,
not yours. I’ve been working
since I was 14 years old. Yes, it was under the table,
I was working at a
car lot, but… It’s just the point that
I’ve been working that long, and she’s trying to say
that I didn’t do nothing
for the baby. And I was. How much have you
given for the baby? Um, I don’t know, I couldn’t
say an exact amount. I mean, I bought her clothes,
I bought her food… Do you have any proof
of anything you’ve given? Receipts? Money order
receipts? Check receipts? That stroller, that’s it. Just the stroller receipt? Yeah, that’s all I have. All right. You young people,
you need to learn when you come to court
to testify and prove
your case, you gotta have something
to prove it with. Jerome,
let’s go to the results. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) These results were
prepared by DNA Diagnostics
and they read as follows. “In the case of
Tinch v. Grubb/Boatwright,
“pertaining to whether
Mr. Tinch or Mr. Boatwright “is the father of
one-year-old Nadaly Tinch, “it has been
determined that the
biological father is…” Yes, Your Honor. These results were
prepared by DNA Diagnostics,
and they read as follows. “In the case of
Tinch v. Grubb/Boatwright,
“pertaining to whether
Mr. Tinch or Mr. Boatwright “is the father of
one-year-old Nadaly Tinch, “it has been determined that
the biological father is “Mr. Tinch.” (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) How does it feel, Mr. Tinch?
Your doubts are put to rest? Yeah. Feels good.
Feels really good. I don’t feel
heartbroken no more. Feel like a piece of my
heart’s been filled back in. Now that I know for sure. I mean, I’d like to
work things out,
I hope, if she’s trying to. That’s all I’ve wanted
was for you to grow up
and be in her life. That’s all I’ve wanted. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) I’ve always known
it was his baby, but I’m glad that
it comes to rest to him that it is his daughter
and hopefully I ain’t
gotta listen to her say, “Where’s my daddy at?”
anymore. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) You’re suing for $2,435
if I’m correct. Half of the expenses
you’ve spent to date
for Nadaly. Because it has been
determined, Mr. Tinch, that
you are her biological father. You are legally
responsible… (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) …to contribute
half of the amount. And so for that reason,
half of $4,870 is $2,435, and I’m awarding that
to the defendant. And you need to pay
her, and continue to
take care of your child. Understood? Yes, Your Honor. Judgment for the defendant,
and court is adjourned. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) From this day forward,
I need you to come
and see Nadaly. I need you to
help me out with her. And I want you to
actually get to know her. And I want
to get to know her too. I’m sorry for doubting
that the baby was mine. It’s okay. I’m sorry for putting you
through all that stress. It’s okay.